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The Food and Drug Administration’s top vaccines official says he hopes to find common ground with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who was picked Thursday by President-elect Donald Trump to head the Department of Health and Human Services.
“What I would ask of him is that he keep an open mind. We’re happy to try to show as much of the data as we can. And I think the data are essentially overwhelming, in certain areas, but we’ll just have to engage in the dialogue,” said Dr. Peter Marks, speaking at an event hosted by the Milken Institute in Washington, D.C., this week, ahead of Trump’s decision.
Kennedy has insisted that he is not “anti-vaccine” and has pledged not to ban vaccines under Trump. Instead, Kennedy has promised to “restore the transparency” around vaccine safety data and records that he accuses HHS officials of hiding.
Marks flatly rebuked Kennedy’s claims about the safety data.
“There’s no secret files. I mean, if they’re secret, I hold a security clearance. If they are secret from me then, they must be at some other level of classification,” he said.
Public health experts have objected to Kennedy’s long record of misleading statements questioning vaccine safety and worry he could upend decades’ worth of hard-fought wins in improving vaccination rates against deadly diseases.
The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a watchdog group that has often clashed with the FDA, likened the pick to “putting a Flat Earther at the head of NASA.”
Marks, a career civil servant who played a key role in launching the Trump administration’s Operation Warp Speed response to the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020, says he has “sat in the room” across from Kennedy when vaccines were discussed multiple times.
While he said he worries that spending time “re-litigating things that we know work” could undermine other important FDA efforts — and could be potentially deadly during a future pandemic if it further erodes confidence in vaccines — Marks also said that working with RFK Jr. could turn out to have a silver lining.
“Perhaps engaging in that dialogue, especially if it’s in a public venue, it may help. It may help bring some of the rest of the country along because sometimes as somebody is convinced, perhaps, maybe some of the rest of the country will be,” he said.
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Marks rejected Kennedy’s claims that the FDA is filled with corrupt officials who need to be fired, stressing that the staff is dedicated to protecting Americans’ health. Marks said he hopes to keep his job under Trump and Kennedy, and to protect the team at his center.
“They do what they do to protect the American people. Not for any kind of nefarious purpose. And during the COVID pandemic, people worked 14 hours a day,” Marks said of the agency’s staff.
Kennedy has vowed to end what he calls the agency’s “war on public health,” warning workers who are “part of this corrupt system” to “pack your bags.”
He has also specifically pledged to fire all of the nutritional scientists at the FDA and other agencies on his first day, accusing them of being co-opted by corporate interests.
“I look forward to working with the more than 80,000 employees at HHS to free the agencies from the smothering cloud of corporate capture so they can pursue their mission to make Americans once again the healthiest people on Earth,” Kennedy posted Thursday on X.
Asked about Kennedy’s scientific expertise, Marks said he thought Kennedy’s understanding is “not as deep as others,” but added, “I know a number of attorneys who know more than most PhDs and MDs about medicine. So it’s not the degree. It’s just a matter of keeping an open mind.”
While Kennedy’s pick for the role was just announced on Thursday, health officials have been bracing for the possibility for a while. During the campaign, Trump vowed he’d let Kennedy to “go wild” on health if he won.
“President Trump wants to see, has told me, he wants to see concrete, measurable diminishment in chronic disease within two years,” Kennedy said on Nov. 9.
Kennedy says he has called on Trump to declare an emergency to counter chronic disease, supercharging his authority to address what he sees as the root causes of the federal government’s failure to address rising rates of a range of ailments from autism to obesity.
“In order to do that, we need to operate very, very quickly. And we need to treat this with the same kind of urgency that we did, the COVID epidemic. This is a thousand times worse than COVID,” Kennedy said.
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KS.1.1: A part of FliRT variant, it has mutations in the building block molecules phenylalanine (F) altered to leucine (L), and arginine (R) to threonine (T) on the spike protein that the virus uses to attach to human cells.
KP.3.3: This is a type of FLuQE variant, where the amino acid glutamine (Q) is mutated to glutamic acid (E) on the spike protein, making it more efficient in binding to human cells.
XEC symptoms resemble that of previous Omicron variants and include fever, sore throat, loss of smell, cough, loss of appetite, and body aches.
Other symptoms may include shortness of breath, muscle aches, headache, sore throat, congestion, runny nose, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, as per health experts.
The FLirT variants that basically belong to Omicron lineage lead to milder symptoms compared to Covid’s original variant. The symptoms associated with FLirT variants are similar to those of JN.1 and can manifest between two to 14 days after exposure.
The new variant is part of the omicron lineage and experts advise taking vaccines and booster shots to get protection against severe illness and hospitalisation.
Monkeypox infection: When to seek medical help
Thanks to all those shots in the arm, in the year 2000, measles in the United States was declared eliminated. But now, it’s coming back, with measles cases reported from California to Vermont.
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One big reason: across the country in 2023, more families exempted their children from routine immunizations than ever before.
“There’s never been a better time in human history to tackle an infectious disease than today,” said Dr. Howard Markel, a medical historian, retired from the University of Michigan. “There’s so many things we can do, from vaccines to antivirals to antibiotics. And yet, I am dumbfounded by the volume of anti-vax voices.”
Markel says vaccine hesitancy is as old as the United States. In the 1700s, when smallpox was ravaging the colonies, some people were given an early form of immunization called variolation. “You went to a doctor who had this infectious material – dried pus and detritus of smallpox scars and so on,” Markel said. “They would cut you open, make a slice of your arm, and inoculate – ‘put it in’ – your arm. And half of the people got really sick, and some of them died. So, it cost a lot and it was dangerous.”
But the people who recovered were immune.
Benjamin Franklin decided it was too dangerous for his sickly four-year-old son, Franky. “One of Franklin’s great regrets was that he did not get his son inoculated, instilled with smallpox virus, to prevent what ultimately killed him,” Markel said.
In the 1800s, as a much safer smallpox vaccine was developed, many cities and states started requiring smallpox vaccination. At the University of California at Berkeley in 1902, it was mandatory.
Students were up in arms about it, said professor Elena Conis, a medical historian at Berkeley. “And people in town cheered them on.
In 1905, the Supreme Court ruled the government has the authority to require vaccination. “This, importantly, had the effect of energizing a lot of anti-vaccine groups,” said Conis. “And the anti-vaccine groups at the time believed that they were defenders of individual liberty.”
But by the 1950s, there was one thing that united Americans: their fear of polio. Markel said, “The idea that your child would be paralyzed or, worse, condemned to an iron lung, this giant tank where your head’s sticking out and that’s how you breathe for the rest of your life, that terrified people.”
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When Dr. Jonas Salk invented the polio vaccine, he was considered a hero. “The greatest faith probably ever in the American medical-industrial complex was around the 1950s,” said Markel. “And here you had this photogenic Jonas Salk with his wife and his children, and they saved the world.”
The 1950s might be considered the high-water mark of vaccine acceptance. Vaccines were then developed for diseases including measles, mumps, and rubella. As Americans, especially children, got their shots, rates for those diseases plummeted.
But it all ran straight into the counterculture decade of the 1960s. Conis said, “As more and more doctors and public health officials were encouraging people to get vaccinated, or encouraging their children to get vaccinated, people were saying, ‘But hold on: I need to ask questions. What are these vaccines for? Who made them? What’s in them? And why are they necessary? Can you tell me that?’”
The overwhelming medical consensus is that the benefits of vaccines have far outweighed the risks. But an upsurge in the anti-vaccine movement was fueled by a 1998 study in the prestigious British journal The Lancet that falsely linked the measles vaccine with autism.
It took 12 years for the journal to retract the study after concluding the research was fraudulent.
Dr. Peter Hotez has worked for decades to develop vaccines at the Baylor College of Medicine and Texas Children’s Hospital. “If you asked me 40 years ago would I ever have to be defending vaccines like I do now, I’d say you’re crazy,” he said. “Everybody knows the life-saving impact of vaccination.”
One study estimated that by the end of 2022, the COVID vaccine had saved more than three million American lives. And according to Hotez, “We reached that level of 200,000 Americans needlessly dying because they refused the COVID vaccine.”
Hotez entered the public debate as a passionate advocate for vaccines, and become a bit of a lightning-rod, telling an audience at Northwestern University in Chicago, “I’m worried there’s a full-on frontal assault on biomedical science. … When we talk about anti-vaccine, anti-science movements, we call it misinformation or info-demic, as though it’s just some random junk out there on the internet. And it’s not. I want to convince you today that it’s organized, it’s deliberate, it’s politically motivated, and it’s having a devastating impact.”
With public figures like former presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. vocalizing vaccine skepticism, Hotez believes politics has turbocharged historical reasons for resisting vaccines.
Asked why somebody would want somebody else not to be vaccinated, Hotez replied, “It’s a form of political control. And it’s a part of creating another issue to galvanize their base.”
Conis was asked if she were concerned about where vaccines are right now in terms of the public: “What I will say is that I’m not at all surprised. We’ve been here, in some respects, before. Vaccination resistance bubbles up when we use more vaccines, and when we use more of the force of law to encourage or require vaccination. When I hear arguments, and when I hear frustration that people aren’t getting vaccinated – how can they not understand? – my response is, ‘Let’s try to understand their distrust, let’s try to understand their concerns, and let’s take them seriously.’”
But as we try to benefit from the lessons of history, Hotez warns the clock is ticking: “The things that we’re talking about today, like COVID-19, H5N1, they’re the warmup acts. You know, Mother Nature’s not being coy with us, right? She’s telling us, ‘I’m going to throw a major pandemic at you every few years, and you better get ready. And by the way, you better convince your population to accept vaccines. Otherwise, the devastation is going to be unprecedented.’”
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Johannesburg — The Democratic Republic of Congo, at the epicenter of a global health emergency declared over a still-growing mpox outbreak, received a first delivery of 99,000 vaccines for the virus Thursday, with a second delivery of 101,000 expected Saturday, the head of the World Health Organization said.
Congolese health officials tell CBS News they hope to start getting the vaccines into the arms of frontline health workers and close contacts of confirmed cases by the beginning of October, with a quicker rollout likely impossible due to logistical challenges.
Officials in Congo say they’ve struggled to diagnose patients and provide basic care in the vast country of 100 million people, where a fragile, under-resourced health care system is also burdened by stigma associated with the virus previously known as monkeypox.
A lack of diagnostic materials and basic medicines to treat the virus, which can improve survival rates, have also hampered efforts to contain the outbreak.
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Greg Ramm, Congo country director for the Save the Children charity, told CBS News that mpox cases were still skyrocketing. He lamented what he said was scant attention being paid globally to the crisis, suggesting the world only starts to really take heed when diseases, such as past outbreaks of Ebola, spread beyond Congo’s borders.
The first shipment of about 200,000 vaccines, donated by the European Union, will be sent to six targeted provinces. They must be kept continuously at minus-130 degrees Fahrenheit until they are administered, in what’s referred to as cold chain storage — an added challenge for the developing nation.
Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director-general of the United Nations’ World Health Organization, said the WHO had “supported the government to get the necessary cold chain in place for the vaccine delivery.”
Congo is a country the size of Western Europe. It is rich with natural resources, including highly sought-after cobalt and copper, and is home to the world’s second largest rainforest. But those resources have been fought over by militant groups for decades and, despite its bounty of natural wealth, the World Bank ranks Congo among the five poorest nations in the world.
The overwhelming majority of the Congolese people have never benefitted from the country’s resources, with roughly 75% of the population living on only about $2 per day or less.
Congo President Felix Tshisekedi has set up a $10 million fund to support the response to the outbreak. Hospitals in the hardest hit areas have reported running out of medicine every day, with officials saying they face challenges even providing sufficient food to patients.
Doctors with several charities working in the country have told CBS News they’re overstretched and short on supplies, even having to use tents and mattresses on the floor of makeshift isolation wards to treat a constant influx of patients.
The desperately needed vaccines are expensive. Health officials tell CBS News that during the 2022 mpox outbreak, manufacturer Bavarian Nordic was selling a single dose of its vaccine for $110.
Jean Kaseya, Director-General of the Africa Centers for Disease Control, has said the continent now needs some 10 million doses to stop the spread of the virus.
“We need to talk about 2 million vaccines to Congo, which is hundreds of thousands of dollars,” said Ramm.
The first few thousand vaccines will be prioritized for health care workers and contacts of known cases, so the initial administration may do little to halt the spread of the virus in Congolese communities.
Mpox can look at first like measles or chickenpox on the skin, with pus-filled lesions and flu-like symptoms. It is a more pressing health concern for those with weaker immune systems, including young children and pregnant women. There are no rapid tests to diagnose mpox, and Congo has only six labs to process the PCR tests, thanks largely to capacity built up during the coronavirus pandemic.
The cost of PCR tests is also largely prohibitive in much of Africa.
Treating the virus requires antibiotics for bacterial infections caused by the lesions, painkillers for fevers and proper nutrition and clean water. These basic needs are a daily challenge at health care sites in Congo.
Most of the schools in the country, which reopened this week, lack running water, disinfectants and soap – basic items that can help prevent the spread of the virus. More than 600 children have died of mpox this year alone in Congo. Young people are more vulnerable due to other prevalent health issues in the country, including malaria, measles and other childhood diseases.
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Mpox was discovered in Denmark in 1958 in research monkeys and named monkeypox. It was first found in humans in 1970 in what was then known as Zaire, now Congo.
Ninety percent of the total mpox cases in the world are in Congo, where people are testing positive for both the newer Clade 1b and the Clade 1a strains. The Clade 1b strain was first detected in the country in September 2023 and has recently been detected in 13 African nations.
More than 655 deaths have been blamed on the virus in Congo, and there are about 20,000 suspected cases.
Health care workers who spoke with CBS News said they fear the real caseload is much larger, as they can only readily access some parts of the country.
Stigma remains a major problem, with communities often looking to traditional healers before turning to Western medicine. Throughout the Ebola outbreaks, it was common for local communities to hide cases of the virus from health care workers, with some claiming the virus only arrived with Western health care workers in their familiar white suits.
The outbreaks have remained fairly isolated to several areas in Congo, but the fear is the virus will hit major cities, such as the densely packed capital Kinshasa, which is home to some 15 million people. The city has seen only a few confirmed cases so far.
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There are also camps for internally displaced people in the Eastern Goma region where as many as 1 million people have sought shelter — most of whom have fled fighting among the various militia groups that plague Congo. Efforts to educate the displaced people about mpox are underway, but health care workers tell CBS News it can be difficult to distinguish, at least at first, from other skin diseases that are prevalent in the tent camps due to the lack of hygiene and clean water, such as scabies.
As the rainy season approaches, health care workers worry the IDP camps could be facing a perfect storm, with possible increased mortality from the ever-mutating mpox virus, endemic cholera and possible measles outbreaks coupled with shortages of food, water and medicine and poor basic hygiene.
“This is a forgotten community to the world,” Lindis Hurum, a project coordinator for the Doctors Without Borders charity in Congo told CBS News, adding that most people in the camps were more worried about surviving until the next week than they were about mpox.
Hurum spoke with CBS News after visiting one of the IDP camps, where she had just met a woman who told her she was facing an impossible choice: Stay at the camp with her family in the horrible conditions and face the health risks, or return to their village in the midst of heavy fighting among the militias.
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